I like the idea of WEM keeping tabs on profile management. It's actually pointed out some old configurations that I made to overcome problems, but forgot to remove after patches went in. I didn't really notice this until I upgraded the console and all my agents reported as unhealthy! If you haven't seen this feature yet, it's in WEM 1811. When the check is run, it dumps the results in C:\Windows\Temp\UPMConfigCheckOutput.xml.
Upon investigation, it looks like some of the errors and warnings aren't really valid. With some of the errors and warning I see, I don't think I could ever achieve a healthy status, and therefore would quickly start to ignore the icon showing the state of my environment.
ERROR: Path to user store does not exist
The only error that cropped up was for the path to the user store. This doesn't seem to be valid, as it's looking for a profile that matches the server name. So instead of looking for \\server\share\profiles it's looking for \\server\share\profiles\<servername>$.<domain>. This doesn't exist. UPM is working though, and not having problems finding user profiles. I think it's just failing while looking for a profile for the server, which will never exist...
WARNING: Profile Delete Delay is not 0
The first warning I have is for the Profile Delete Delay. In the past, I've had problems with UPM deleting profiles because files are still in use. Citrix introduced this delay to prevent this from happening, and I've had it set to 60 seconds for some time now. WEM is recommending I set this to 0 so profiles are immediately deleted, but I feel more problems would be generated from this change. Is this valid?
WARNING: CEI Disabled
The second warning is for CEIPEnabled being disabled... Thats pure preference, and I imagine most companies are going to turn that off. It seems more informational than warning.
WARNING: Process Admins Enabled
If Process Admins is enabled, it reports a warning. This seems like preference as well and should be informational rather than warning. I use this in my environment and use different policies/groups to control things that I do not want to apply to admins.
WARNING: Profile Delete Delay
If profile delete delay is disabled, a warning is generated. It indicates that the effective setting of () does not match preferred setting of (0). So in order to make this warning go away, you have to turn on Profile Delete Delay and set it to 0. I'd rather just disable it!
I'm bringing these issues up because I feel this could be a very helpful tool for administrators to check the overall health of their UPM environment. In fact, I'd love to see this reported right in director!
I can see at least three states for the environment, and looks like the overall state is set to the most important alert -- Error, Warning, Healthy. Ideally, I'd want to normally see a healthy environment, but even one warning or error will change that (understandably!)
The error I'm seeing isn't really an error. After creating a profile folder for my VDA and assigning the computer account permissions, I was able to change my state to Warning. I did this just for testing so I could see how the health check worked.
A few of the warnings were valid, and I quickly fixed them. However, the ones above are keeping me in a warning state. If I don't see any changes to the state, and it's always in error or warning, the functionality quickly becomes just another piece of information that I regularly ignore.
Any chance at getting the ability to ignore but still report certain items, or the ability to manually classify items? Or maybe another state of Healthy, but informational items available?
With all that said -- I *absolutely* love this feature! I would love to see more Citrix components doing health checks that might help me to stop doing something stupid. But the ability to override something needs to be implemented make these type of features more useful!
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Joe Robinson
Good Afternoon:
I like the idea of WEM keeping tabs on profile management. It's actually pointed out some old configurations that I made to overcome problems, but forgot to remove after patches went in. I didn't really notice this until I upgraded the console and all my agents reported as unhealthy! If you haven't seen this feature yet, it's in WEM 1811. When the check is run, it dumps the results in C:\Windows\Temp\UPMConfigCheckOutput.xml.
Upon investigation, it looks like some of the errors and warnings aren't really valid. With some of the errors and warning I see, I don't think I could ever achieve a healthy status, and therefore would quickly start to ignore the icon showing the state of my environment.
ERROR: Path to user store does not exist
The only error that cropped up was for the path to the user store. This doesn't seem to be valid, as it's looking for a profile that matches the server name. So instead of looking for \\server\share\profiles it's looking for \\server\share\profiles\<servername>$.<domain>. This doesn't exist. UPM is working though, and not having problems finding user profiles. I think it's just failing while looking for a profile for the server, which will never exist...
WARNING: Profile Delete Delay is not 0
The first warning I have is for the Profile Delete Delay. In the past, I've had problems with UPM deleting profiles because files are still in use. Citrix introduced this delay to prevent this from happening, and I've had it set to 60 seconds for some time now. WEM is recommending I set this to 0 so profiles are immediately deleted, but I feel more problems would be generated from this change. Is this valid?
WARNING: CEI Disabled
The second warning is for CEIPEnabled being disabled... Thats pure preference, and I imagine most companies are going to turn that off. It seems more informational than warning.
WARNING: Process Admins Enabled
If Process Admins is enabled, it reports a warning. This seems like preference as well and should be informational rather than warning. I use this in my environment and use different policies/groups to control things that I do not want to apply to admins.
WARNING: Profile Delete Delay
If profile delete delay is disabled, a warning is generated. It indicates that the effective setting of () does not match preferred setting of (0). So in order to make this warning go away, you have to turn on Profile Delete Delay and set it to 0. I'd rather just disable it!
I'm bringing these issues up because I feel this could be a very helpful tool for administrators to check the overall health of their UPM environment. In fact, I'd love to see this reported right in director!
I can see at least three states for the environment, and looks like the overall state is set to the most important alert -- Error, Warning, Healthy. Ideally, I'd want to normally see a healthy environment, but even one warning or error will change that (understandably!)
The error I'm seeing isn't really an error. After creating a profile folder for my VDA and assigning the computer account permissions, I was able to change my state to Warning. I did this just for testing so I could see how the health check worked.
A few of the warnings were valid, and I quickly fixed them. However, the ones above are keeping me in a warning state. If I don't see any changes to the state, and it's always in error or warning, the functionality quickly becomes just another piece of information that I regularly ignore.
Any chance at getting the ability to ignore but still report certain items, or the ability to manually classify items? Or maybe another state of Healthy, but informational items available?
With all that said -- I *absolutely* love this feature! I would love to see more Citrix components doing health checks that might help me to stop doing something stupid. But the ability to override something needs to be implemented make these type of features more useful!
Thanks!
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