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Citrix was planning on having a Citrix Technology Professionals (CTP) Summit meeting this month to announce new Virtualization experts to the CTP program. For reasons that I am still a little shocked about, the CTP summit is going to be rescheduled, due to some very interesting clauses in the contract that every vendor has to agree to before being a sponsor of the upcoming VMworld event. It appears that VMware has come up with some very interesting event tactics. Below is a quote from the contract that Citrix has to sign and agree to for having a booth at VMworld.
"Exhibitor agrees that it may not use any Organizer event to leverage or promote any other event in which Exhibitor is a sponsor or participant, and therefore agrees that it may not, during the period from two days before until two days after the Event, conduct, promote, endorse, or sponsor any functions, classes, seminars, exhibits, or similar marketing activities within 50 miles of any event similar to the Event that is the subject of this agreement, other than Exhibitor's participation in the Event under this Agreement."
Citrix is a big enough of a company that, that not everyone is aware of everything that is going on all the time. We had been planning the upcoming CTP summit for some time now, and just found out about the VMware clause, what a shame we have to reschedule it, as I think participants that would have gone, would have capitalized on going to both events.
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Aug 07, 2009
Anonymous says:
Looks like standard operation procedure to me.Looks like standard operation procedure to me.
Aug 07, 2009
Rich Crusco says:
Maybe it is, maybe it isnt, but I do wonder how many other events have imposed s...Maybe it is, maybe it isnt, but I do wonder how many other events have imposed such a restriction as this on sponsors. I did a little asking around, and from whom I talked to, this was a first for them also.
Aug 12
Rich Crusco says:
I have done some additional research and it turns out that this type of clause i...I have done some additional research and it turns out that this type of clause is standard in many event agreements including our Synergy 09 event. Citrix has never enforced the clause ( and to my knowledge neither has VMware ). We have asked our event vendor to remove this restriction for our Synergy 2010 agreement. Thanks to others who have provided feedback and details on their events.
Aug 07, 2009
Stephen Greenberg says:
This is why VMWare is going to be in serious trouble in due time. It frankly is...This is why VMWare is going to be in serious trouble in due time. It frankly is their loss, if they don't want us CTP's to meet and summit there, they are losing out on some great industry resources at their event!!!
Aug 08, 2009
Rene Vester says:
I just cannot believe why VMware thinks that this kind of enforcement and aliena...I just cannot believe why VMware thinks that this kind of enforcement and alienation can in any way be a good thing for them.. to me it should be the other way around the more open you are, the better chance other peoples initiatives rub of positively on you...
Good call on virtualization CTP's hope you guys have your summit under good circumstances some place else
/René Vester
Aug 08, 2009
Rich Crusco says:
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise, that will allow us to have a bigger and be...Maybe this is a blessing in disguise, that will allow us to have a bigger and better summit, as opposed to one that would have been.
Aug 08, 2009
Rich Crusco says:
So true, I would have thought, that the idea would have been welcomedSo true, I would have thought, that the idea would have been welcomed
Aug 09, 2009
Anonymous says:
you can probably blame microsoft for their stupid betting chip tactics last year...you can probably blame microsoft for their stupid betting chip tactics last year...
Aug 09
Rich Crusco says:
What was the betting chip?What was the betting chip?
Aug 11
Heiko Verlande says:
http://virtualization.com/news/2008/09/23/microsoft-bashes-vmware-with-a-new-web...http://virtualization.com/news/2008/09/23/microsoft-bashes-vmware-with-a-new-website-get-the-facts-revisited/
Aug 11
Anonymous says:
MSFT were giving out betting chips at last years VMworld in Vegas. The chips wer...MSFT were giving out betting chips at last years VMworld in Vegas. The chips were created by MSFT and they said that if you wanted a true virtualization platform to use their solution or something like that. It was very harsh and at the same time very funny.
Aug 27
Rich Crusco says:
Ahhh, I seeAhhh, I see
Aug 11
Anonymous says:
big deal. if you have been at the commercial site of an event like this one know...big deal. if you have been at the commercial site of an event like this one knows this is standard stuff. Citrix should have organized this at their own V-event; that might have helped to boost up the attendee list a bit
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Aug 12
Roger Klorese says:
See below. We DO hold meetings at our event (and attendance is fine, thank you)...See below. We DO hold meetings at our event (and attendance is fine, thank you) – we just want to meet more than once a year. And we only mentioned it at all because when we last met with the CTPs, some of them asked us to hold a meeting at VMworld.
Aug 11
Anonymous says:
We had to sign a very similar agreement to exhibit at Microsoft TechEd - it is v...We had to sign a very similar agreement to exhibit at Microsoft TechEd - it is very standard language. Why didn't you just hold your CTP event at Citrix Synergy? Don't virtualization professionals go to that event?
Aug 12
Roger Klorese says:
1) We do hold a CTP event at Synergy. We were looking to hold multiple events a...1) We do hold a CTP event at Synergy. We were looking to hold multiple events a year, since things move along at too rapid a clip to get by on one. When a good number of CTPs told us they were going to VMware – and especially since this is the first meeting that coincides with the creation of, and could offer specialized sessions for, CTPs with XenServer certification – we thought it would be a good opportunity.
2) The only reason we publicized this in any way is that we told the CTPs at our last meeting, at Synergy, that we were aiming to have a meeting at VMworld. We notified them on the CTP website that this would be postponed. We didn't issue a press release; we didn't complain about it; we simply notified the CTPs. Some of them decided to publicize it.
3) To be clear, we didn't complain about it. The language we posted was very clear that we fully understood their (or Microsoft's or our or anyone else's) rights to do this:
"We want to emphasize that VMworld is clearly VMware's event, and as such, they have the right to change the rules, limit the booth size of competitors and add new restrictions like the above. We are simply pointing out the reason for the change in plans since many of our Citrix Technology Professionals had requested an in-person meeting at the show. Unfortunately, we will not be able to comply this year without violating VMware's new 50-mile restriction. Thanks in advance for understanding. (BTW, we should also note that while the Citrix Silicon Valley Headquarters technically falls within VMware's 50-mile ban, we would be happy to host any out-of-town CTPs at our Santa Clara offices should they want to make the trek south. We're sure our friends at VMware will understand)."
Aug 11
Anonymous says:
So why not just hold it it 51 miles away and hire a big party limo bus decked ou...So why not just hold it it 51 miles away and hire a big party limo bus decked out with Citrix banners to shuttle people to the event.
Aug 27
Rich Crusco says:
Now that is an interesting thoughtNow that is an interesting thought
Aug 17
Anonymous says:
or, why not schedule a GTM update by someone that's at least 50 miles away from ...or, why not schedule a GTM update by someone that's at least 50 miles away from the event - the CTP's could maybe book a room somewhere at the event if they wanted??
Aug 27
Rich Crusco says:
Another good ideaAnother good idea
Aug 19
Anonymous says:
Hi Rich, Personally I believe that VMWare is the "master". :´-) My opin...Hi Rich,
Personally I believe that VMWare is the "master". :´-)
My opinion is that Citrix would not have to go to such events because it is direct competition, unless there is an exchange of technology, I think Citrix is big enough to navigate and get along with almost all Microsoft the market for virtualization CPD.
On the other hand I find that VMWare is not properly and its the practices are not correct, can not block the promotion of the program since the CTP program is not theirs and has been around for years.
Regards,
/Xavi
http://www.ctxdom.com
Aug 27
Rich Crusco says:
Hi Xavi Thanks for the feedback One thing is for sure, it is that... =) RichHi Xavi
Thanks for the feedback
One thing is for sure, it is that... =)
Rich
Aug 27
Anonymous says:
I am amazed at the complaining about this against VmWare. It was VmWare th...I am amazed at the complaining about this against VmWare. It was VmWare that created a virtualization conference. No one else thought to, or had the talent to do it.
Now that competition is real, it's only natural that VmWare to would seek to change the rules somewhat. What business wouldn't? Citrix, Microsoft, Oracle and others have benefited hugely from this convention, and arguably, at a cost to VmWare. How many other companies do you know would even allow their competitors to set up shop at their conference to the degree that VmWare does?
Is an Virtualizaiton engineer in a Rev-generating data center, I am glad to see Citrix and Microsoft emerge in the V arena. It means better options and prices for all of us.
But let's not kid ourselves, every company wants their events and and conferences to be largely successful. They are simply ensuring that their conference and company name is not undermine by another company's message. Business 101.
What Citrix and Microsoft need to do is form their own Conferences. People will come, if they are worth coming to. Microsft and Citrix pulling out together is simply a marketing stunt as neither company has been harmed by this event or it's rules.
Aug 27
Rich Crusco says:
I wouldnt go as far to say I that I'm complaining, I merely pointed out some of ...I wouldnt go as far to say I that I'm complaining, I merely pointed out some of the gotchas that we ran into, into trying to announce some new members to the Citrix Technology Professionals program, and since the people being nominated were going to be at VMworld, and also that they were being nominated in the virtualization category, it seemed to make sense to nominate them while they were there.
Aug 28
Anonymous says:
If you really have time to blog this much about such a ridiculous topic, you mus...If you really have time to blog this much about such a ridiculous topic, you must be completely virtualized and have a tlot of time on your hands.
Aug 28
Rich Crusco says:
So what your saying is I should have created a snapshot of myself, and that I sh...So what your saying is I should have created a snapshot of myself, and that I should revert to a previous snapshot?
Rich
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